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Alternate Pathways to the PE: How States Vary in Their Engineering Education Licensure Requirements

For many decades now, the NCEES Model Law has indicated that the recommended educational requirement for licensure as a professional engineer is a baccalaureate degree in engineering from a program accredited by the Engineering Accreditation Commission (EAC) of ABET, “or equivalent.” The interpretation of the “or equivalent” has been a state-by-state determination, and in some cases an applicant-by-applicant determination. Historically, the “or equivalent” has been most applicable in its application to degrees from universities in foreign countries that have been evaluated to determine the approximate equivalence to a BS degree from an EAC/ABET program. Some jurisdictions have also used the “or equivalent” clause to deal with a variety of domestic “equivalents.”

In addition to the case-by-case determination of equivalence, many states have adopted alternate pathways to licensure over the years. Some of these provisions are relics of the early days of licensure when pathways to licensure were provided for those without degrees, and some of these loopholes have not been closed since. Other states have legislated specific licensure pathways for those with technology rather than engineering education, and for those with science rather than engineering degrees.

The current alternate pathways to licensure can be found in the table below. This information needs a HUGE CAVEAT. IT MAY NOT BE COMPLETELY ACCURATE. The information was extracted from an NCEES licensure board survey, the results of which are available at www.ncees.org. From a review by a handful of people to date, it has been shown to be inaccurate in some circumstances, as, so far, three states indicated to have no alternate pathways indeed had significant alternate pathways in their statutes. Those have been corrected. Others may need similar correction. Four jurisdictions had not responded to the published survey, so their information isn’t available. One other caveat is necessary: For those states that do not have any alternate pathways to licensure other than a degree from an EAC/ABET accredited program, some may have traditions of interpreting the “or equivalent” clause in different ways. So, there may exist in practice some manner of additional “flexibility” that might not be apparent from statutes and rules. Despite this table’s likely inaccuracy for some specific states, it does present an overall view of current alternate pathways to licensure.

What does this information show? About 2/3 of states provide an alternate pathway to licensure for those with baccalaureate degrees from programs accredited by the Technology Accreditation Commission (TAC) of ABET. Most of these programs require additional engineering experience, ranging from 5 to 12 years. More than 2/3 of states provide an alternate pathway for those with science rather than engineering degrees, and again, most of these require additional engineering experience, from 6 to 12 years. Eight states still have alternate pathways for candidates without any degree, with experience requirements ranging from 4 to 25 years. In at least several of these states, PE board members have not been able to recall an instance when a new licensee without any degree was provided an initial license in the last several decades. These “no-degree” loopholes are not commonly used, at least in some of the few states where these remain.

None of these alternate pathways to licensure are included in the Model Law, and engineers who are licensed through these alternate pathways do not necessarily receive comity licensure in other jurisdictions. In recent years, the PEs with national mobility are those who are Model Law Engineers and who maintain a Council Record through NCEES. These engineers receive expedited comity in many jurisdictions, and thus have enhanced mobility. None of the PEs licensed by the alternate pathways described herein are Model Law Engineers, and they do not benefit from enhanced mobility.

These alternate pathways have existed for many decades. It is the decision of individual states whether or not to provide alternate pathways, and more often than not it is a decision of the legislature, based on lobbying from those with alternate qualifications. As each state considers changes to its statute and rules to modify qualifications required for licensure, this is the landscape from which the consideration of those modifications begins.


NCEES Licensing Board Survey - Alternate Pathways to Licensure - 2009

THE INFORMATION IN THIS TABLE MAY NOT BE ACCURATE FOR ALL STATES. FOR ACCURATE and CURRENT INFORMATION REGARDING A SPECIFIC STATE, REVIEW THAT STATE’S STATUTES AND RULES and/or CONTACT THAT STATE’S PE BOARD DIRECTLY (SEE NOTE BELOW).

See www.ncees.org for survey response summaries

 

 

 

Years of Experience Required with Education Indicated

 

 

Jurisdictions

 

TAC ABET

 

Non ABET Engrg

Science

 

No

 

 

 

4 year degree

4 year degree

4 year degree

Degree

Alaska

 

 

5

 

6

 

6

 

NO

Alabama

 

 

NO

 

6

 

NO

 

NO

Arkansas

 

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

California

 

 

6

 

6

 

6

 

6

Colorado

 

 

6

 

6

 

NO

 

NO

Connecticut

 

 

7

 

9

 

NO

 

NO

Delaware

 

 

8

 

8

 

8

 

NO

Florida

 

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

Georgia

 

 

6.5

 

7

 

7

 

15

Hawaii

 

 

8

 

8

 

12

 

NO

Iowa

 

 

NO

 

5

 

NO

 

NO

Idaho

 

 

4

 

4

 

4

 

NO

Illinois

 

 

NO

 

8

 

8

 

NO

Indiana

 

 

NO

 

4

 

8

 

NO

Kansas

 

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

Kentucky

 

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

Louisiana

 

 

NO

 

8

 

NO

 

NO

Massachusetts

 

8

 

8

 

NO

 

NO

Maryland

 

 

8

 

8

 

8

 

NO

Maine

 

 

4

 

8

 

8

 

NO

Michigan

 

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

Minnesota

 

 

NO

 

6

 

NO

 

NO

Missouri

 

 

NO

 

4

 

NO

 

NO

Mississippi

 

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

Montana

 

 

4

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

North Carolina

 

8

 

12

 

8

 

12

North Dakota

 

12

 

8

 

12

 

12

Nebraska

 

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

New Hampshire

 

8

 

10

 

NO*

 

25

New Mexico

 

 

6

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

Nevada

 

 

6

 

6

 

8

 

NO

New York

 

 

6

 

6

 

9

 

12

Ohio

 

 

8

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

Oklahoma

 

 

6

 

6

 

6

 

NO

Oregon

 

 

6

 

4

 

12

 

NO

Pennsylvania

 

NO

 

12

 

12

 

12

Rhode Island

 

6

 

6

 

NO

 

NO

South Carolina

 

8

 

8

 

NO

 

NO

South Dakota

 

5

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

Tennesee

 

 

NO

 

4

 

NO

 

NO

Texas

 

 

8

 

8

 

8

 

NO

Virginia

 

 

6

 

6

 

6

 

NO

Vermont

 

 

8

 

12

 

NO

 

NO

Washington

 

 

5

 

8

 

8

 

NO

Wisconsin

 

 

4 to 12

 

4 to 12

 

4 to 12

 

4 to 12

West Virginia

 

6

 

4

 

4

 

NO

Wyoming

 

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

 

NO

 

Totals

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


 




 

 

 

4-12 Years

 

30

4-12 years

35

4-12 years

20

4-25 years

8

 

NO

 

17

NO

12

NO

27

NO

39

Note - Arizona , the District of Columbia , New Jersey and Utah did not respond to the survey

*In NH, a science BS is acceptable, with an engineering master's degree.

Note - This table is not definitive. The information is taken from a survey summary, and the specific requirements vary in clarity and requirement from state to state. Refer to state laws and rules for specific information.

 

 

 

Published Monday, January 04, 2010 12:14 PM by Craig Musselman, P.E., F.NSPE

Comments

# re: Alternate Pathways to the PE: How States Vary in Their Engineering Education Licensure Requirements

Craig,

Not even all model law engineers receive comity. States can (and do) impose additional restrictions beyond required by the NCEES Model Law. An example is in Alaska where they require comity applications to sucessfully complete a course in cold regions engineering. A model law engineer sans the course will not receive comity.

Second, I strongly disagree with the idea that Engineering Technology graduates should not be Professional Engineers. I graduated from a university with a degree in Mechancial Engineering Technology and have a equivalent or superior academic background than those who have mechanical engineering degrees. (Since graduation, I have taken a large number of graduate courses that will eventually lead to a MSME degree but I still will not be able to get licensed in states that require a bachelors degree in engineering.)

Third, the terminology used in the column is incorrect. No state provides an "alternate pathway" because that indicates an inferior method of getting licensed as compared to a preferred manner of getting licensed. States offer a number of different options that meet licensure and outside entities (NSPE, NCEES, ASME) apply labels as to whether they are the preferred or alternate pathway. But you won't find the term "alternate pathway" used by any state licensing board.

Fourth, certain states allow military veterans to pass the exam with lower scores than non-military PE candidates. Alabama adds an automatic 5 percentage points to the exams of all veteran examinees. This option probably should be noted on the table.

Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:09 AM by G

# re: Alternate Pathways to the PE: How States Vary in Their Engineering Education Licensure Requirements

Another comment that I should make is that I understand the NCEES is excited about a national mobility program for engineers. There may be benefits, however, I don't think states can (or should) contract out approving engineering licenses to a third party. Any sort of expedited review of engineers certified as model law engineers by the NCEES amounts to a third party doing some or all of the applicants review.

In the state I am licensed, no preference or expedition is given to NCEES Model Law Engineers and they are reviewed in the same manner and process as those who do not have a record. I agree with this and will work with my state legislature to ensure that no preference is given to those who maintain memberships with the NCEES or other engineering societies.

Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:15 AM by G

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