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NSPE Adopts Position Statement on Engineering Education Outcomes

At its April 2010 Board of Directors meeting, NSPE adopted a new position statement advocating that certain engineering education outcomes be attained by engineers of all disciplines who become licensed professional engineers. These outcomes, listed below, are not currently required by existing accreditation criteria, and thus are not commonly included in engineering curricula.


1.    Apply principles of leadership;
2.    Account for risk and uncertainty in the solution of engineering problems; 
3.    Apply principles of project management;
4.    Explain where and how public policy is developed and how it influences engineering practice;
5.    Explain business concepts applicable to engineering practice; and
6.    Apply principles of sustainability to the design and evaluation of engineering systems.


This position statement was developed by reviewing the “Body of Knowledge” reports that have been prepared for two engineering disciplines, comparing the education outcomes recommended in those reports and identifying the delta between current accreditation criteria and the recommended outcomes, and determining which of those new outcomes apply to all engineering disciplines.


As it was developed, this position statement was reviewed by a number of NSPE committees, representing practitioners and academicians, as well as engineers of various disciplines. It is interesting to note that the “what” of the list of six outcomes above was not significantly controversial among these different groups. As long as what is meant by each outcome is described adequately, there was general concurrence that a background in each of these topic areas is needed for the professional practice of engineering. It is the “how” that is controversial.


NSPE’s position statement doesn’t specify whether these outcomes should be required in baccalaureate education or in graduate programs; it simply advocates that these outcomes be attained by the time of licensure. The “how” has been left to ABET and the National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying to determine the combination of accreditation criteria and licensure requirements of the future.


This is a visionary step on the part of NSPE to advocate raising the bar for engineering licensure requirements of the future. Rather than discussing degrees and credit requirements, this position statement addresses the issue at a higher level in defining professional practice topic areas that typically are not currently incorporated in the education of most engineers but are necessary in the education of professional engineers in the interest of enhancing the protection of the public health, safety and welfare.

Published Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:19 PM by Craig Musselman, P.E., F.NSPE

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# re: NSPE Adopts Position Statement on Engineering Education Outcomes

Hi, Craig. Appreciate your blog. I have been directly involved in legislative and regulatory activities requiring licensure in Wisconsin for the past five years. In regard to the above topic and my current preparation of a presentation for the licensing board, would you provide your insight to the following comments?  

ABET tells me that only a four-year engineering degree is expected to prepare a student for the P.E. exam. ABET accredits 4-yr eng'g technology without that expectation. But ABET does not list that expectation as an outcome in the eng'g degree criteria. If it did, it would help WSPE and our state licensing board argue some of the differences in various education paths that the board is asked to consider. We'd like to see NSPE ask ABET to add that outcome to the eng'g degree criteria.

Somewhat related, I see NCEES has established its own eng'g education standard to evaluate degrees for eguivalency. They used to use the ABET outcomes approach. I assume they found that too subjective and went back to a standard based on the number of credits for various studies. Is that how you see it? Is there any discussion at ABET to address this issue?  I would argue that incorporating some more objective criteria with the existing outcomes would help.

We need some help from NCEES and ABET to help argue against the dumbing down of the education requirement for licensure.  NCEES, while constructing a new model law with post-graduate requirements, modified Position 14 to recommend six years of experience for graduates of TAC/ABET-accredited programs in 2010. This appears contradictory even though one action is for the future and the latter is reacting to the present. Also, I'm not sure if they are differentiating between four-year and two-year ABET eng'g technology degrees. This may call for clarification.  

ABET reviews two-year technology programs. I was told they ignore whether the program is algebra-based or calculus-based because they use the outcomes approach. This tells me the outcomes approach is too subjective if that difference is not determinable by the outcomes criteria.  

I may need a better understanding but, if my above statements are true, we seem to be undercut by these policies when we try to support the education requirement of a four-year ABET engineering degree as the right path to licensure. The proponents for alternatives point to NCEES' Statement and misuse the ABET accreditation label.

I don't want to take too much of your time so I left out some of the logic of my concerns.  I hope you will comment anyway.

So, in summary, it would help if ABET would make it clear that one of the outcomes of a four-year eng'g degree has to be preparation for licensure. Certain four-year eng'g technology programs may be robust enough for them to consider. But many are not. ABET should recognize those that could meet the licensure outcome and be very clear on those that don't. Many technical colleges are promoting ABET-accredited programs in the context that they are teaching engineering. The students and parents assumed this is the path to being an engineer when the tech college is offering only a two-year eng'g technology degree.  Blame the tech college's marketing message. But ABET's current polices seem to set the stage for this confusion.

As concerns NCEES, I think clarification of Position Statement 14 is needed in the context that two-year programs may have TAC/ABET accreditation and could be only algebra-based as I understand it.

Appreciate any insight, Craig.

Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:20 AM by Glen R Schwalbach, P.E.

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