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If they are down to 13,000 members, they may be in need of some divine guidance. ------------------------------ John Martin PE, FNSPE Senior Vice President Clark Patterson Associates Endicott NY (607)760-2800 ------------------------------

Agreed: the core is ethics. I summarize my observation of fellow P.E.s, particularly those who wear the ring, for 40+ years, and depending on the audience who asks the difference between an engineer and a PE, by explaining "When a P.E. makes a mistake, ...

Chris, you should be the subject of NSPE concern. You are important to NSPE, but they don't seem to know it. And Francis brings out the loss of membership which should be of major concern for NSPE. The loss of membership has not been addressed properly ...

Chris, it is my understanding that NSPE has a unaffiliated membership grade at the national level known as members at large. I don't know if there is a discount to regular membership and I don't know if you join a virtual chapter. There are many reasons ...